There is still war in Europe and Ukrainians have adap­ted the best they can. But what about stu­dy­ing under the shadow of war? – An inter­view with a Ukrainian student.

Three years. Or, to be more pre­cise, ele­ven. The war in Europe, in Ukraine, con­ti­nues. A coun­try and a peop­le figh­t­ing for their sur­vi­val, defen­ding their sov­er­eig­n­ty, demo­cra­cy and free­dom. Despite the incre­a­singly tur­bu­lent times with the Russian-friend­ly admi­nis­tra­ti­on in the USA, dai­ly life for Ukrainians goes on. Of cour­se, it is in some way dif­fe­rent from what we are used to. Living in peace and one of the safest coun­tries of the world, we can­not ima­gi­ne what it is like to live and stu­dy during times of war.

Tanya is a stu­dent at Oles Honchar National University stu­dy­ing phy­sio- and ergo­the­ra­py. She lives and learns in Dnipro – one of the lar­gest cities of Ukraine, loca­ted in the cen­ter-east part of the coun­try on the banks of the river, with which the city shares its name.

View on the Dnipro
What is Dnipro like?

„Dnipro is a city of con­trast whe­re modern buil­dings fit into old archi­tec­tu­re. Where the­re are beau­ti­ful parks and the lon­gest embank­ment in Europe. Where new resi­den­ti­al buil­dings coexist with old Soviet houses. There are tou­rist pla­ces, pic­tures­que, whe­re the eyes rejoice and the soul rests. But the­re are also unat­trac­ti­ve are­as, satu­ra­ted with post-Soviet cul­tu­re. But, for the most part, Dnipro is a beau­ti­ful place. I would not say that it is among the top pla­ces to visit in life, but the­re is some­thing spe­cial about it.“

Is there anything you particularly like about your hometown?

„What do I like? I like the Dnipro, the river. My ent­i­re child­hood was spent near this place. We wal­ked with my father on the ice of this river in win­ter, with the dog along the embank­ment at any time of the year. If I may say so, my favou­rite place in Dnipro is Dnipro.“

What is your daily routine as a student like?

„My stu­dent rou­ti­ne is not at all the one you are used to. I usual­ly wake up ten minu­tes befo­re class, drink water and go to an online lec­tu­re or prac­ti­ce. There can be from one to five such clas­ses a day and all are online. […] Between clas­ses I usual­ly have bre­ak­fast and lunch. Sometimes I do assign­ments right away during clas­ses or after them.“

At a tram stop
What is the war’s effect on your uni life?

„Oh, and here comes the sad­ness … my uni­ver­si­ty works com­ple­te­ly online becau­se the­re is no bomb shel­ter. And this, I will say, is so-so. I can­not com­pa­re what is now with what it was befo­re the war, becau­se I ent­e­red when the war began. But all three years I have been stu­dy­ing online and the­re were prac­ti­cal­ly no off­line clas­ses. […] There is also a pro­blem with tea­chers, but this is not the case with ever­yo­ne. There is not enough of what the uni­ver­si­ty pro­vi­des and I feel that more know­ledge is nee­ded in order to work in this field later. It is sad to say, but stu­dy­ing com­ple­te­ly online is ter­ri­ble, tru­ly ter­ri­ble. It is hard to describe.“

What is the issue regarding the teachers?

„Some tea­chers are not doing their job. They tre­at their work as fri­vo­lous­ly as some stu­dents tre­at their stu­dies. On the one hand, it is dif­fi­cult to teach online what you need to see with your own eyes. On the other hand, uni­ver­si­ty needs to take mea­su­res to chan­ge the situation.“

What signs of change did you notice in Dnipro after the beginning of the war and during the past three years?

„There are enough buil­dings des­troy­ed by mis­si­les in Dnipro for every city resi­dent to have seen it at least once in their life. At first, the chan­ges were more signi­fi­cant: fear, igno­ran­ce, panic. But now they have prac­ti­cal­ly disap­peared. People have got­ten used to it. Every day an air raid siren sounds several times – a har­bin­ger of dan­ger. But peop­le usual­ly do not react to it at all. What has chan­ged sin­ce the begin­ning of the war is that we have [Telegram groups and apps] that allow us to track which area of the regi­on is cur­r­ent­ly dan­ge­rous and what kind of wea­pons are attacking.“

How did the war affect you?

„I did not have a gra­dua­ti­on, I had to finish school somehow. The exam that was sup­po­sed to be after school was chan­ged and I had to relearn […], becau­se of which my results were lower than expec­ted. In fact, at the moment the­re is prac­ti­cal­ly no effect. Some stores and estab­lish­ments do not work when the alarms sound, but this is mini­mal dis­com­fort. Often you have to adjust your day to the war, but ever­yo­ne has long been accus­to­med to this. – I do not feel afraid, I just want it all to final­ly end.“

What remains
How do you want it to end? Do you have any wishes or expectations?

„Have you seen the latest news? I do not think the­re can be any talk about wis­hes or expec­ta­ti­ons … I hope not to die and I do not want my coun­try, at least some part of it, to beco­me Russia. I do not want peop­le to die. I do not want [the Russians] to sell apart­ments in our des­troy­ed cities, from which our peop­le fled, to resi­dents of Russia. […]“

Is there a story you want to share?

“January 14, 2023. A house loca­ted five minu­tes walk from my par­ents’ house. […] The explo­si­on occur­red at half past three in the after­noon. Nothing fores­ha­do­wed trou­ble, but I will always remem­ber how the earth shook. How pho­tos began to appe­ar on the news. And over time the rea­li­sa­ti­on came – which house was hit. I immedia­te­ly rea­li­sed that the place was very fami­li­ar, and by the loud­ness of the explo­si­on it was clear – it was very clo­se. A litt­le later, vide­os began to appe­ar on the Internet whe­re peop­le under the rub­ble screa­med from hel­pless­ness, some of them will never see the light of day again. Some died immedia­te­ly, others fro­ze to death. Among the peop­le living the­re were my acquain­tan­ces: a boy from a par­al­lel class, he was sup­po­sed to lea­ve the house in ten minu­tes to meet his mother from work, but did not have time; my for­mer fit­ness trai­ner went for a walk out­side with her child­ren, her hus­band stay­ed at home and died; my godfather’s friends – Mother, daugh­ter, ste­pf­a­ther – lived the­re. They sent their daugh­ter to her grand­mo­ther for some time, agreed to take her back home that day. Mum had a hea­da­che, she real­ly did not want to go, but her hus­band per­sua­ded her, say­ing that they pro­mi­sed to take Sonya (the girl). They went and mira­cu­lous­ly escaped death – the girl did not beco­me an orphan. Only the cat died. A litt­le later, while wal­king the dog, I saw a woman. The mother of one of the dead girls – I knew this girl from music school, we went to the same choir – I saw how empty her eyes were. This woman was wal­king her friend and her child, cur­sing herself in her head for not being able to save her daughter.”

Interview and trans­la­ti­on: Johannes Wingert

Photos: Tanya


What remains

Comment: Why it is important not to forget.

I still remem­ber when the war star­ted. I was on my way home from my internship and wal­ked towards the tram at the Weinberg Campus. What did I noti­ce? The Ukrainian flag was waving in the wind next to the other flags – a sign of soli­da­ri­ty. The flag has long sin­ce disap­peared from the­re. Out of sight, out of mind.

The war in Ukraine has been going on for three years now and, to be honest, the­re is no end in sight. Gone are the days of fal­se eupho­ria that I felt when lar­ge parts of Kharkiv and final­ly Kherson were libe­ra­ted by Ukrainian tro­ops in 2023. Since then, the­re have been no major gains on eit­her side. Only a very slow advan­ce by the Russian army, which in the 21st cen­tu­ry still resorts to tac­tics from the Second World War and wants to deci­de ass­aults with sheer num­bers. The ent­i­re extent of the war is sick. War is always sick, but in this case, it is even more per­ver­se to see how the Russian pro­pa­gan­da machi­ne in Germany and now pro­mi­n­ent­ly in the USA is bea­ring fruit – twis­ting the per­pe­tra­tors and the victims.

No one should for­get who atta­cked whom here. Russia, under the lea­ders­hip of Putin, atta­cked its neigh­bour out of pure impe­ria­list mega­lo­ma­nia. Russia is respon­si­ble for mis­si­le strikes on schools, kin­der­gar­tens and hos­pi­tals. Russia depor­ted tens of thousands of Ukrainian child­ren in order to impo­se a Russian iden­ti­ty – an ideo­lo­gy – on them, so that it could later send them to the front lines too. And Russia com­mit­ted unspeaka­ble cru­el­ties in Bucha and else­whe­re. But in Germany we alrea­dy have our own pro­blems with forgetting.

In the media the Ukraine topic has beco­me secon­da­ry, unless the­re are per­for­man­ces like tho­se made by US President Trump and his Vice President Vance. Why is that? Probably becau­se news is incre­a­singly just try­ing to get our atten­ti­on. Repeating the same thing over and over again just does not get as many clicks. In addi­ti­on, sup­port from the self-pro­c­lai­med free world has been rather hesi­tant sin­ce the begin­ning of the war of aggres­si­on. There has been much talk about the impor­t­ance of stan­ding by Ukraine’s side, but no action has fol­lo­wed. From the very begin­ning, and still today, it is the Ukrainians who are figh­t­ing and also dying for that free world. The fact is that more should have been done to sup­port Ukraine, be it pure­ly huma­ni­ta­ri­an or mili­ta­ri­ly. We should not for­get that what is hap­pe­ning in Ukraine right now and how it will all turn out will shape the com­ing world order and the future of Europe, and the­re­fo­re con­cerns us all. Ultimately, this bur­den rests on the peop­le of Ukraine.

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Comment: Johannes Wingert

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